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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>17 acres is a lot of land in London for any religion - don&#039;t the organisers know that nobody&#039;d making making land now-a-days?

Although I hate bigots immaterial of what religion they profess to represent the organisers are encouraging hostility from just about every side including Muslims because of the amount of money this is going to cost.

Are they so wrapped up with this project that they&#039;re unaware that 100,000&#039;s of thousands of our citizens are struggling just to get by while they&#039;re planning to spend so much? 

Sounds to me as if someone wants this new complex to primarily make a public statement rather than represent a place of private worship?

What does Boris have to say about this?  Not a lot I suppose. Politicians aren&#039;t really know to express a candid opinion just in case it offends anyone!

It&#039;s an excellent article and would have attracted many more honest and spontaneous comments. had you not made your bias so obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>17 acres is a lot of land in London for any religion &#8211; don&#8217;t the organisers know that nobody&#8217;d making making land now-a-days?</p>
<p>Although I hate bigots immaterial of what religion they profess to represent the organisers are encouraging hostility from just about every side including Muslims because of the amount of money this is going to cost.</p>
<p>Are they so wrapped up with this project that they&#8217;re unaware that 100,000&#8217;s of thousands of our citizens are struggling just to get by while they&#8217;re planning to spend so much? </p>
<p>Sounds to me as if someone wants this new complex to primarily make a public statement rather than represent a place of private worship?</p>
<p>What does Boris have to say about this?  Not a lot I suppose. Politicians aren&#8217;t really know to express a candid opinion just in case it offends anyone!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an excellent article and would have attracted many more honest and spontaneous comments. had you not made your bias so obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenneth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Christopher Logan,

U said non-muslims use to pay Jizziya but you forgot that there were taxes for mulsims and another one for the people of book. Muslim use to pay Zakkat and the non-muslims jizziyah. Where do you see an injustice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Christopher Logan,</p>
<p>U said non-muslims use to pay Jizziya but you forgot that there were taxes for mulsims and another one for the people of book. Muslim use to pay Zakkat and the non-muslims jizziyah. Where do you see an injustice.</p>
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		<title>By: Rehan Ashraf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rehan Ashraf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very sad that the true message of Islam has been lost amidst all the extremism and islamophobia that one sees nowadays.

I am a 6th generation muslim from the Indian subcontinent. Islam was introduced to that country not by the sword as so many believe, but by Arab settlers in the south who arrived via boats. They lived their lives in a way that enticed the natives to offer their daughters in marriage and convert themselves.

If the Arab speaking countries are so anti Judeo-Christian, then how come Casablanca has a Jewish quarter, not to mention a Jewish mayor? Bernard Azulay is the spokesman for the King of Morocco, and is himself Jewish. Iraq under Saddam Hussein, the prime minister was Tariq Aziz, who despite his Islamic name, was a Christian.

The Arab countries had a Jewish presence well before the birth of Islam, and I applaud those countries for not denying this and trying to maintain the history of those lands.

One more thing - the countries of Iran and Pakistan hold elections in a way whereby seats are allocated to minorities so that they may have voices in parliament. That is why you have Christian and Hindu MPs in Pakistan, and Jewish and Zoroastrian MPs in Iran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very sad that the true message of Islam has been lost amidst all the extremism and islamophobia that one sees nowadays.</p>
<p>I am a 6th generation muslim from the Indian subcontinent. Islam was introduced to that country not by the sword as so many believe, but by Arab settlers in the south who arrived via boats. They lived their lives in a way that enticed the natives to offer their daughters in marriage and convert themselves.</p>
<p>If the Arab speaking countries are so anti Judeo-Christian, then how come Casablanca has a Jewish quarter, not to mention a Jewish mayor? Bernard Azulay is the spokesman for the King of Morocco, and is himself Jewish. Iraq under Saddam Hussein, the prime minister was Tariq Aziz, who despite his Islamic name, was a Christian.</p>
<p>The Arab countries had a Jewish presence well before the birth of Islam, and I applaud those countries for not denying this and trying to maintain the history of those lands.</p>
<p>One more thing &#8211; the countries of Iran and Pakistan hold elections in a way whereby seats are allocated to minorities so that they may have voices in parliament. That is why you have Christian and Hindu MPs in Pakistan, and Jewish and Zoroastrian MPs in Iran.</p>
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		<title>By: Kashmiri Nomad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kashmiri Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>G Ruddin are you sure your not a closet Muslim ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>G Ruddin are you sure your not a closet Muslim ?</p>
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		<title>By: G Ruddin</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Ruddin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Anti-Christian sentiment in many Muslims countries is a response to the Islamophobia that Muslims endure in the West-well let&#039;s be honest, the &#039;Christian&#039; West. 

Atheists, Buddhists, Sikhs, Secular Humanists, etc are fine and good neighbours but Christians particularly of the right-wing variety are very anti-Muslim, racist against non-whites. They love to rape the Muslim world of its resources, bomb their mosques, get Sunnis and Shias to fight each other, send in fanatical missionaries to convert Muslim peoples- yet they expect the Muslim world to welcome Christians, unbelievable!!!  I am surprised how well the Muslim world treats its Christians given all this!

As it says,  &quot;As you sow......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Anti-Christian sentiment in many Muslims countries is a response to the Islamophobia that Muslims endure in the West-well let&#8217;s be honest, the &#8216;Christian&#8217; West. </p>
<p>Atheists, Buddhists, Sikhs, Secular Humanists, etc are fine and good neighbours but Christians particularly of the right-wing variety are very anti-Muslim, racist against non-whites. They love to rape the Muslim world of its resources, bomb their mosques, get Sunnis and Shias to fight each other, send in fanatical missionaries to convert Muslim peoples- yet they expect the Muslim world to welcome Christians, unbelievable!!!  I am surprised how well the Muslim world treats its Christians given all this!</p>
<p>As it says,  &#8220;As you sow&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DrM</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Christopher logan&quot; is talking out of his backside. He ignores history and presents and argument based on absurdities and lies. Christians and Muslims in Iraq have been living in peace for centuries yet why things gotten worse? Its because of the war waged on that nation by Anglo-American for the last 7 years, a war I&#039;m sure scum like Logan supported insisting that Iraq had WMD.
Funny how Bethlehem was Christian majority city for centuries under Muslim rule yet became de-Christianized in just 4 decades of &quot;israeli&quot; occupation huh? Saudi Arabia is a western client state run by a secular monarchy, so you blithering idiots ought to shut up and read some history books. Why is it the vast majority of dictatorships around the world are installed and supported by Uncle Sam I wonder.
The truth lies in the numbers, the Islamic world is a far more tolerant place for minorities then the lying theiving West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Christopher logan&#8221; is talking out of his backside. He ignores history and presents and argument based on absurdities and lies. Christians and Muslims in Iraq have been living in peace for centuries yet why things gotten worse? Its because of the war waged on that nation by Anglo-American for the last 7 years, a war I&#8217;m sure scum like Logan supported insisting that Iraq had WMD.<br />
Funny how Bethlehem was Christian majority city for centuries under Muslim rule yet became de-Christianized in just 4 decades of &#8220;israeli&#8221; occupation huh? Saudi Arabia is a western client state run by a secular monarchy, so you blithering idiots ought to shut up and read some history books. Why is it the vast majority of dictatorships around the world are installed and supported by Uncle Sam I wonder.<br />
The truth lies in the numbers, the Islamic world is a far more tolerant place for minorities then the lying theiving West.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Christopher Logan, a Jihad (Holy War) can only be legitimately be called by a world leader of the faith and only when Islam is itself threatened. All of the fundamentalists who claim they are waging a Jihad are misleading their followers. 

Also, it could also be said that christianity is not Muslim friendly, after all this topic was started after a christian councillor opposed the building of a mosque and throughout history Christianity has been used as an excuse to cause an awful lot of pain and suffering, just like Islam is being used today. The Crusades are a fine example of this, or the Holocaust.

I am a christian and I don&#039;t see anything to be wrong with Islam. It is a faith that preaches many of the same messages as Christianity. The religion is not to blame, the people who subvert it and twist it&#039;s message are.

We should be leading through example, even if they won&#039;t let a church be built in their country. In the words of Gandhi &quot;An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind&quot;. By showing tolerance and understanding in our society we may have a chance of slowly altering their society to a more tolerant one, but by seeking petty vengance all we wil do is fan the flames of fundamentalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Christopher Logan, a Jihad (Holy War) can only be legitimately be called by a world leader of the faith and only when Islam is itself threatened. All of the fundamentalists who claim they are waging a Jihad are misleading their followers. </p>
<p>Also, it could also be said that christianity is not Muslim friendly, after all this topic was started after a christian councillor opposed the building of a mosque and throughout history Christianity has been used as an excuse to cause an awful lot of pain and suffering, just like Islam is being used today. The Crusades are a fine example of this, or the Holocaust.</p>
<p>I am a christian and I don&#8217;t see anything to be wrong with Islam. It is a faith that preaches many of the same messages as Christianity. The religion is not to blame, the people who subvert it and twist it&#8217;s message are.</p>
<p>We should be leading through example, even if they won&#8217;t let a church be built in their country. In the words of Gandhi &#8220;An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind&#8221;. By showing tolerance and understanding in our society we may have a chance of slowly altering their society to a more tolerant one, but by seeking petty vengance all we wil do is fan the flames of fundamentalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Adam, dhimmi people were given less rights in exchange for extortion and people care about today, not the past of Europe.

Islams says that Muslims can invite non-Muslims to Islam or accept Islamic Law (jizya), and if neither is accepted they can wage holy war on non-Muslims. So I do not care what Lewis said, and once again try sticking to today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Adam, dhimmi people were given less rights in exchange for extortion and people care about today, not the past of Europe.</p>
<p>Islams says that Muslims can invite non-Muslims to Islam or accept Islamic Law (jizya), and if neither is accepted they can wage holy war on non-Muslims. So I do not care what Lewis said, and once again try sticking to today.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christians in many of those countries suffer greatly. Don&#039;t be fooled by this pro-Islamic propaganda and Churches that were already there and building new ones are two different stories.

The Coptics in Egypt have been persecuted for centuries and now this is happening in Malaysia.

Malaysia: 3 More Churches Attacked

http://loganswarning.com/?p=815

The Christians of Iraq are also being driven out. Islam is not Christianity friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christians in many of those countries suffer greatly. Don&#8217;t be fooled by this pro-Islamic propaganda and Churches that were already there and building new ones are two different stories.</p>
<p>The Coptics in Egypt have been persecuted for centuries and now this is happening in Malaysia.</p>
<p>Malaysia: 3 More Churches Attacked</p>
<p><a href="http://loganswarning.com/?p=815" rel="nofollow">http://loganswarning.com/?p=815</a></p>
<p>The Christians of Iraq are also being driven out. Islam is not Christianity friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 06:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, sharia does not support a monarchy. No country has real sharia law. 

Mot Muslims who support sharia want something like how Israel has Jewish law domestically(irrelevant to Israeli/Palestinian issue, I am talking domestically) and not some strange dictatorship. 

There has not been real sharia since the first four caliphs. 

As for Dhimmitude, at least the Muslims gave non-Muslims right. Why not read Mark cohens book under the crescent and under the cross, he compares jews under Christians and Muslims, and explains dhimmitude was far far far less oppressive then what the Christians did with their minorities.  Dhimmi people were given rights. Look at the letter Mohammad left at st Catherine monastery at mt Sinai.

Daniel pipes even says this, and Robert Spencer considers him a legit soarce. Daniel pipes basically came out and referred Professor Mark Cohen s book, stating that minorities were treated far better in Muslim countries then in Europe, and Daniel pipes does NOT like Islam, yet he said this. 

Bernard lewis, very pro-iraq war, pro-isreal can be quoted saying: 

# &quot;The fanatical warrior offering his victims the choice of the Koran or the sword is not only untrue, it is impossible.&quot;[17]
# &quot;Generally speaking, Muslim tolerance of unbelievers was far better than anything available in Christendom, until the rise of secularism in the 17th century.&quot;[18]

EVEN BERNARD LEWIS says so, whom many in academia hold with respect(and contempt)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saudi Arabia is a monarchy, sharia does not support a monarchy. No country has real sharia law. </p>
<p>Mot Muslims who support sharia want something like how Israel has Jewish law domestically(irrelevant to Israeli/Palestinian issue, I am talking domestically) and not some strange dictatorship. </p>
<p>There has not been real sharia since the first four caliphs. </p>
<p>As for Dhimmitude, at least the Muslims gave non-Muslims right. Why not read Mark cohens book under the crescent and under the cross, he compares jews under Christians and Muslims, and explains dhimmitude was far far far less oppressive then what the Christians did with their minorities.  Dhimmi people were given rights. Look at the letter Mohammad left at st Catherine monastery at mt Sinai.</p>
<p>Daniel pipes even says this, and Robert Spencer considers him a legit soarce. Daniel pipes basically came out and referred Professor Mark Cohen s book, stating that minorities were treated far better in Muslim countries then in Europe, and Daniel pipes does NOT like Islam, yet he said this. </p>
<p>Bernard lewis, very pro-iraq war, pro-isreal can be quoted saying: </p>
<p># &#8220;The fanatical warrior offering his victims the choice of the Koran or the sword is not only untrue, it is impossible.&#8221;[17]<br />
# &#8220;Generally speaking, Muslim tolerance of unbelievers was far better than anything available in Christendom, until the rise of secularism in the 17th century.&#8221;[18]</p>
<p>EVEN BERNARD LEWIS says so, whom many in academia hold with respect(and contempt)</p>
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